Name: Black Hole Master IP: 12.74.103.195 Subject: Don't you just love contradictions? Email: tom_servo@worldnet.att.net Website: http:// Article: It would seem, my irate friend, that you "career bums" would be the first to perish under your proposed nuclear winter. The only people to survive would be those corrupt government officials, a few scientists, and all the rich people that can afford to bribe their way into safety. So you see, a nuclear winter wouldn't be a very good solution at all. The only real way to win is if the world grows as a species to the level that we can make communism work. Look at Star Trek, it worked there.--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- Replying to Original Article:ok ok ok ok ok ok ok SO kenny, do you remember all those times when you used to kick my ass at chess? and then you always told me about how you needed to work on your endgame? well this thing with the bums - I'm working on my endgame. I know I lost that one. the capitalist desires... does GREED ring a bell? we live in a country that tells business people to be the best, to be entrepeneurs and come up with a product they can use to make money along with benefit some yahoo consumer. and then when they do, and when they take an iron grasp on the market, uncle sam files an anti-trust suit on the same person/company (see: Gates, Bill) I don't think billybobdork gates is a saint, but how fucking committed is the government to the capitalist ideal? there is an endgame there, it's called a monopoly, and if you need a sterling example of a monopoly, go look at a map and find the country in between canada and mexico. we live in a country that sells weapons to countries and then blows the fuck out of them as soon as the check clears. we embargo a poor-ass country full of people who are no better off than when their parents and grandparents lived under a "democracy", the only difference between the two being we used to let our rich people go there on vacations back in the good old Batista days. we live in a nation that other countries disdain for various reasons, many being that the majority of our fellow citizens are thick-skulled, self-centered assholes. I've worked in fast food. despite any ideal of a nice american, you get to see the real shithead when it's 3am and they want a milkshake after you've taken the machine off to clean it. and so, by saying someone overcomes capitalist desire, I say that maybe they forget about being the asshole with the most toys when they die. I say that maybe, maybe, they stop thinking of themselves or their country or their whatever as the best on the planet and realize that the rest of the world fucking matters too. and that won't happen, so there's my capitulation. call me wrong, call me whatever. my only hope is that some day, soon, the rest of the world realizes that america is a bully with amnesia and then they all get together and kick the shit out of us. we've written ourselves into history as the good guy because we have the biggest fucking guns and the masses of corn-fed midwesterners to send off to kill whatever nation of brown people the dart hits when the joint chiefs have a meeting. so my solution isn't proactive from a US perspective..... sometimes you need to flush away the shit that's here and replace it with new shit. what would I replace it with? fuck if I know, I just think that a good old fashioned nuclear winter is the best thing for this country. so I'm not being positive..... so sue me...